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		<title>Comment on Individual accountability with collaborative learning by alinabavian</title>
		<link>http://jayhuerbin.com/2012/01/29/individual-accountability-with-collaborative-learning/#comment-181</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sure what happened up there and why did that. But, what I was going to say was that I agree. I often have my students do group work and I wonder if there is one student who is doing all of the work. I also think it is difficult to know when students are being hard workers or if they are just staring at the computer and not putting work out. In all, it is hard to make sure that every student is working hard every time you let them go off on their own. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure what happened up there and why did that. But, what I was going to say was that I agree. I often have my students do group work and I wonder if there is one student who is doing all of the work. I also think it is difficult to know when students are being hard workers or if they are just staring at the computer and not putting work out. In all, it is hard to make sure that every student is working hard every time you let them go off on their own.<br />
Ali</p>
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		<title>Comment on Individual accountability with collaborative learning by alinabavian</title>
		<link>http://jayhuerbin.com/2012/01/29/individual-accountability-with-collaborative-learning/#comment-180</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jay,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay,</p>
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		<title>Comment on The need to read difficult texts by Jay Huerbin</title>
		<link>http://jayhuerbin.com/2012/01/17/the-need-to-read-difficult-texts/#comment-172</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay Huerbin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 12:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Carol. I definitely agree and that&#039;s something I&#039;m trying to do as I continue my preservice teaching. The biggest thing I struggle with right now is how to get every student involved or engaged. I wonder if it just starts by holding them accountable for their reading assignments, whether it&#039;s participation points or letting them know that anybody is fair game for me to ask them a question.

We&#039;ve had some good discussions as of late, especially with students who have previously not done that reading homework. So, I&#039;ve stressed the importance to my students to just try to do the reading and come in with questions. Chances are somebody else was struggling with the same thing. So, we can work together as a class to discuss these problems and do close readings to help everybody understand. It&#039;s just difficult - and even just plain frustrating - when I can&#039;t get students to attempt it in the first place.

And as a side note, I&#039;ve used a couple of the activities in your With Rigor for All book that you suggest as alternatives to reading quizzes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Carol. I definitely agree and that&#8217;s something I&#8217;m trying to do as I continue my preservice teaching. The biggest thing I struggle with right now is how to get every student involved or engaged. I wonder if it just starts by holding them accountable for their reading assignments, whether it&#8217;s participation points or letting them know that anybody is fair game for me to ask them a question.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve had some good discussions as of late, especially with students who have previously not done that reading homework. So, I&#8217;ve stressed the importance to my students to just try to do the reading and come in with questions. Chances are somebody else was struggling with the same thing. So, we can work together as a class to discuss these problems and do close readings to help everybody understand. It&#8217;s just difficult &#8211; and even just plain frustrating &#8211; when I can&#8217;t get students to attempt it in the first place.</p>
<p>And as a side note, I&#8217;ve used a couple of the activities in your With Rigor for All book that you suggest as alternatives to reading quizzes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The need to read difficult texts by Carol Jago (@CarolJago)</title>
		<link>http://jayhuerbin.com/2012/01/17/the-need-to-read-difficult-texts/#comment-171</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carol Jago (@CarolJago)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 08:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Jay.

I think challenging texts are often vehicles for teaching reading skills. What is even more important to me is that by creating lessons that scaffold their reading of difficult literature like Beowulf, teacher provide access to rich and wonderful works that would otherwise be impossible for students to read on their own (How many of us did?). Powerful literature isn&#039;t written the way it is to make reading hard but to express complex ideas artfully. It&#039;s worth the trouble!

Best/ Carol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Jay.</p>
<p>I think challenging texts are often vehicles for teaching reading skills. What is even more important to me is that by creating lessons that scaffold their reading of difficult literature like Beowulf, teacher provide access to rich and wonderful works that would otherwise be impossible for students to read on their own (How many of us did?). Powerful literature isn&#8217;t written the way it is to make reading hard but to express complex ideas artfully. It&#8217;s worth the trouble!</p>
<p>Best/ Carol</p>
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		<title>Comment on Teaching difficult texts by Diane Scaiff</title>
		<link>http://jayhuerbin.com/2011/07/07/teaching-difficult-texts/#comment-170</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Enjoying your discussion about teaching difficult texts.  I believe in it.  When I was teaching English to gifted grade seven and eights we studied Oliver Twist, Huckleberry Finn and (with my principal and the parents&#039; agreement) The Merchant of Venice.  We enjoyed the writing in all three of these texts and at the end tackled the issues of racism and anti-semitism.  The students&#039; conclusions?  The writers were not racist or anti-semitic given the societies they lived in and Mark Twain was satirizing racists and hypocrites, especially in Huck&#039;s inner debates.  It was well worth the difficulty of dealing with some of the language.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoying your discussion about teaching difficult texts.  I believe in it.  When I was teaching English to gifted grade seven and eights we studied Oliver Twist, Huckleberry Finn and (with my principal and the parents&#8217; agreement) The Merchant of Venice.  We enjoyed the writing in all three of these texts and at the end tackled the issues of racism and anti-semitism.  The students&#8217; conclusions?  The writers were not racist or anti-semitic given the societies they lived in and Mark Twain was satirizing racists and hypocrites, especially in Huck&#8217;s inner debates.  It was well worth the difficulty of dealing with some of the language.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Teaching difficult texts by The Need to Read Difficult Texts &#124; jay.blog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Need to Read Difficult Texts &#124; jay.blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the summer, I had this post about the struggles of teaching a difficult text. You can read a little more about my questions and thoughts in that blog post, but I want to draw [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the summer, I had this post about the struggles of teaching a difficult text. You can read a little more about my questions and thoughts in that blog post, but I want to draw [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Overcoming Beowulf by Jay Huerbin</title>
		<link>http://jayhuerbin.com/2012/01/13/overcoming-beowulf/#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay Huerbin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 16:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sam,

Take a look at what I said to Nichole below. I think creating a classroom atmosphere where students and teacher work together is a good strategy. Work with them early to give them the confidence that they can actually read and understand the difficult texts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam,</p>
<p>Take a look at what I said to Nichole below. I think creating a classroom atmosphere where students and teacher work together is a good strategy. Work with them early to give them the confidence that they can actually read and understand the difficult texts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Overcoming Beowulf by Jay Huerbin</title>
		<link>http://jayhuerbin.com/2012/01/13/overcoming-beowulf/#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay Huerbin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 16:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nichole,

Something we did was create a running list of vocabulary words on a piece of poster paper. We would use this as a cumulative reference for all class periods. If we came across a word that we weren&#039;t familiar with during a close reading, we&#039;d look it up and put it on our poster. All of my students have laptops so a Google search isn&#039;t time-consuming. If you don&#039;t have that technology available, you could just use a dictionary, I&#039;m sure.

I also worked toward making myself not look like a know-it-all in front of the class. Sometimes we&#039;d come across a word that I didn&#039;t even know and would say, &quot;Yes, it&#039;s a difficult text. And, look, we&#039;ve come across a word that I&#039;m not even familiar with. So, instead of giving up, let&#039;s work through this together, look up the word and carry on with our close reading.&quot;

The biggest thing, then, is to work with them and constantly reiterate that we can use each other to learn about a new and difficult text. If a three different people were able to pick out three different things in a passage, then we can use that collectively to reach a conclusion.

Hope this helps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nichole,</p>
<p>Something we did was create a running list of vocabulary words on a piece of poster paper. We would use this as a cumulative reference for all class periods. If we came across a word that we weren&#8217;t familiar with during a close reading, we&#8217;d look it up and put it on our poster. All of my students have laptops so a Google search isn&#8217;t time-consuming. If you don&#8217;t have that technology available, you could just use a dictionary, I&#8217;m sure.</p>
<p>I also worked toward making myself not look like a know-it-all in front of the class. Sometimes we&#8217;d come across a word that I didn&#8217;t even know and would say, &#8220;Yes, it&#8217;s a difficult text. And, look, we&#8217;ve come across a word that I&#8217;m not even familiar with. So, instead of giving up, let&#8217;s work through this together, look up the word and carry on with our close reading.&#8221;</p>
<p>The biggest thing, then, is to work with them and constantly reiterate that we can use each other to learn about a new and difficult text. If a three different people were able to pick out three different things in a passage, then we can use that collectively to reach a conclusion.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Overcoming Beowulf by nicholepeer</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 16:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How have you been able to conquer the vocabulary question? My students have a tendency to be discouraged by difficult vocabulary and I want to know how you&#039;ve been able to help your kids push through the vocab enough to get to the story.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How have you been able to conquer the vocabulary question? My students have a tendency to be discouraged by difficult vocabulary and I want to know how you&#8217;ve been able to help your kids push through the vocab enough to get to the story.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Overcoming Beowulf by samanthahowsare</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 20:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel this way about Romeo and Juliet with my ninth graders. The language is something they have never experienced before I don&#039;t want them to become frustrated and give up on the text quickly. I think you are using a lot of good strategies here. Going to have to keep these in mind when we start reading on Tuesday.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel this way about Romeo and Juliet with my ninth graders. The language is something they have never experienced before I don&#8217;t want them to become frustrated and give up on the text quickly. I think you are using a lot of good strategies here. Going to have to keep these in mind when we start reading on Tuesday.</p>
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